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I don't know if you saw my reply to your other post, but you don't need to downgrade the firmware to P19, and that's not recommended. You just need a LSI ROM downgrade by sub-revision, still part of P20. Get the mptsas2.rom file for version from P20 package version 07.39.00.00 and it should work around the HP issue.

@@ArtofServer I missed the reply sorry - I'll go back and check it out. Thanks!

@@ArtofServer On the Broadcom site the only P20 I can download is firmware 20.00.07.00, evidently 20.00.04.00 is what I am after but I am not sure what ROM version is in that zip as I can't fin'd it for download anywhere.

Got it all sorted with the help from your videos. Thanks!

Hey! Welcome to my channel! :-) What kind of JBOD enclosure do you have? Does it use a standard ATX PSU setup or some proprietary PDB+PSU like the Supermicro? You just need to make sure you supply enough amps for spin-up of all drives. BTW, I don't have any of these JBOD boards right now... :-(

yeah, i guess it depends on your local energy costs, that will affect perspective.

Some HP Proliant BIOS have an issue with the LSI BIOS ROM. One workaround is to downgrade the LSI BIOS ROM (on another machine) to a slightly older version.

@@ArtofServerthanks for the reply. Any ideas on where I can get the older firmware?

@@ArtofServer I meant to add also that the SAS card can see all the drives fine, I just need to be able to set boot order on the SAS card and assume I’m going to need the config utility for that.

This is what I see on the HP DL380 G7 boot screen: Avago Technologies MPT SAS2 BIOS MPT2BIOS-7.39.02.00 (2015.08.03) When I put the card in a desktop PC and go into the config utility (I don’t get this far on the server) I see this version: Avago Technologies Config Utility 7.39.02.00 (2015.08.03)

I flashed P14 and was able to open the config utility - awesome video by the way!

Yeah, I can understand if the system isn't stable and consistent, it's difficult to deploy remotely. It's possible some of the traces from the CPU socket to the DIMM slot is slightly damaged and sometimes loses contact. To improve stability, can you try not using the DIMM that has the instability and use larger DIMM modules if you need the RAM?

@@ArtofServer Good idea. No, excellent idea. Thank you.

not sure, never tried that, but sounds plausible.

No, I was referring to the Antec 900. The 1900 is much newer... I recall the 900 back in ancient times.

Thanks! :-)

can't really comment about it as I've never used it. if it is of similar dimension as P2000 and requires no additional PCIe power, I think it shouldn't be a problem to fit as the P2000 did.

@@ArtofServer My use case is to run ML training models and I thought given the dimensions of both the cards very similar, having a 8GB card might be better suited. I could be wrong as I am very new to this field. But thanks for responding back, I will a bit more research on the points you mentioned above.

I've never seen it in a 9305-16e, but this issue is found on cards that have been configured in target mode firmware.

@@ArtofServerthank you for the quick reply! I can confirm the same setting was applied on a 9305-16e card I purchased and following your guide I was able to fix it. Thank you again for all that you do for this community!

Are the rails you have adjusted to the minimum length? The mounting point in the back is adjustable and should slide back and forth to accommodate for racks of different depths.

I can't see where I could possibly make them any shorter. The inner rails that connect to the server are 26" long, and the outer rails extend from 26½ to 36 3/4". Alas.

Glad I could help

use the racadm tool from the OS to reset it if you don't have direct console access.

I'm lost for words...

The USB boot drive just shows as a USB HDD.

You could do that and it will work. But it doesn't change the PCIe ID, so it will still load the megasas driver instead of the HBA driver like mpt3sas. This is problematic for certain OSes and the software integration on top of that. But, I've demonstrated the use of even full on RAID controllers using SDR0 and it is all usable.

@@ArtofServer Hmmm I don't do not know that xigmaNas will even have that driver to load. Windows OS yes. Or are you talking about loaded from the H330/H730 built in firmware/bios boot loader? Yea that will load no matter what. Will flashing it to IT mode upset the Dell Idrac or monitoring hardware? Thought I read someplace that it does, is why I was thinking just putting it in HBA mode might be better. But maybe just buying a cheap Dell HBA330 would be best and pulling the H330/H730. Its not here yet, just going to combine two sets of old ZFS XigmaNas raid1 zfs to a new box with more expansion. Im just trying to avoid issues as I have not actually done this type of swap before and dells can be picky about changing things. Should I just get a HBA330 for the smoothest less fiddling around experience? I have read a few people claiming the HBA mode is not exactly the same like they lost their pool due to it. but did not elaborate why/how. That is a bit concerning to me.

That's very strange... when you read out the info on that card, what chip revision does it show?

@@ArtofServer H710P Mini D1

yes, that's essentially what was demonstrating in this video.

Well, is your room ambient temp close to 32C?

Nope , 23C .

LOL

no one said anything about "fake". this was just taking a look at a card I received as a return fraud.

@@ArtofServer They're widely described as such by people who don't understand how OEM licensing works. I agree it's return fraud in your case but the likely reason you got it was that the client regarded it as "fake" from a "returns not accepted" vendor (common for Chinese sellers) FWIW the Inspur cards _are_ cheap(*), but to be honest I'd avoid sas2008/3008 family for home use anyway The reason for saying that is they can't be turned to low power PCIe mode(**) and prevent the host computer from reaching sleep/low power modes This is especially germane if you want a silent PC - the ARM-based LSI controllers (9400 onwards) not only draw much less power than the PowerPC ones, but allow the host system to go to C6 modes too, so whilst there may be an "on paper" variation of 10W between the cards you can easily see 60-80W on the whole system In your position I'd sell the card cheaply with a 30 day warranty. There's always someone who will buy it as long as it's tested (*) Usually, but there are some chinese vendors who take the proverbial (**) sas3008 cards can have L0/L1 enabled but at cost of lots of random SMART errors and it's a serious faff to set the modes

Did you watch this video yet? Everything you're asking is answered in this video... ??? I'm confused with your question.

@@ArtofServer you know what, you're right. I was hasty and didnt finish the whole video. Thank you for this video.

you should probably watch this video: ruclips.net/video/Q4e8kmuGm6o/видео.html

nah, it's not that complicated. :-)

@@ArtofServer lol I’ve got a few buddies in storage and I tell you lol I know nothing lol just enough to get things running

Glad I could help!

I do not yet. but that's a great suggestion. i no longer have this controller though, as I had to return this to Broadcom. However, I can probably do a tutorial using an older generation controller.

@@ArtofServer awesome Sir thanks a lot (preferably the demo using storcli set of commands) wishin your youtube channel more success and subscribers (btw im suggestin my friends to subscribe to it)

yeah, I think if the 2 halves were virtualized into a single LUN, that would be easier to use. Welcome to the channel and hope you find more useful content! thanks for watching! :-)

which controller are you using?

@@ArtofServer sas3081e

@@ArtofServer sas3081e

@@ArtofServer sas3081e LSI in IT mode

Glad I could help!

Try disabling the Option ROM on the PCIe slot.

yeah, I'm seeing more of these Inspur cards floating around on eBay. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with them, but in this case the heatsink feels a bit small for a pretty hot chip.

@@ArtofServer True, I haven't found anything wrong with it. I have it running in a 2u server so the airflow is pretty good. I have 8 SSD's connected to it, I'm not sure if the HBA would run hotter on HDD's compared to SSD's.

Thanks! Glad this was helpful! Be sure to checkout the playlist with all the other HP Z workstation videos! :-)

www.engineering.com/resources/air-flow-calculator/

@@ArtofServer Awesome ty, yeah that was a new one for me. I might need it when I try to just piece together a SAS backplane with a 8 disk housing which will be outside of the server because it won't fit inside. I've heard good things about Nocta fans which I might add to that. I'm hesitant to replace the mainOEM Dell fans with Noctuas because they seems to run a lower RPMs so of course they'll be quieter. So, all this because I don't think I would want a NetApp that will add 200Watt on top of my already 150 Watt.

T420 and which card? The T420 doesn't have a mini monolithic slot right? So it's a Dell PERC PCIe adapter type of card? What's the Dell P/N?

@@ArtofServer Not a mini. Its the original H710p in a PCIe slot. No idea what the P/N is. How can I bash that? Not an IT guy. Its a MegaRAID SAS 2208 [Thunderbolt] version 05 according to lshw

Hey! Welcome to my channel! :-) No, I was never able to recover any money on this and had to refund this person. :-( Such is life sometimes, but I just focus on the other 99.99% of wonderful people who shop with me and support my store. :-) That's very interesting about the Louis Rossman and logos. I didn't know about that with Apple, but I had heard someone else say it was customs inspection related. Thanks for sharing and hope you find some of my content interesting and helpful!

@@ArtofServer I have been enjoying it, learning a lot and possibly that I made a mistake, but, as you said.... life. Just gotta live and learn. One question I do have, and havent seen all your videos yet so not sure if it's been answered already. Many of the caser, including the possible 9305-24 I got, have a 4 pin header. What is that used for? I say "mistake" as the car runs really hot. Would like to 3D print a shroud and add a fan, but concerned that should a small fan fail, a shround would then assist in it's cooking. I was looking around when I found you to see if there was a way to add a fan and have it RPM monitored (4 pin header maybe?)

Yes, that's correct

Ha ha ha.. wow, you found one of my ancient videos! Hope it was interesting and welcome to the channel! :-)

@@ArtofServer 95%+ of tech / computer / app videos are all the same. Its nice to see something different. Enjoying myself here so far - thanks for the welcome......

that highly depends on how you configure your ZFS pool, what type of transfers you are doing (sequential vs random, large blocks vs small blocks, etc.) and the performance characteristics of your storage devices.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

I don't know... can you?

Hope it helped! :-)

Actually, I do: ruclips.net/video/laC7nsY1SyM/видео.html

@@ArtofServer you are honestly helping in the best way

Indeed! The only negative I have about the onboard LSI SAS2308 controller is that HP cut half the PCIe lanes. It is a PCIe 3.0 x8 capable chip, but if you check, it is connecting at PCIe 3.0 x4. This is enough bandwidth for HDD and a few SSDs, but it won't be enough if you're using something like 8x SSDs.

Glad this helped! :-)

nice!

LOL! Hope this helped you? Welcome to my channel! :-)

@@ArtofServer Your channel helped me lots, lots and lots. Thank you <3